like someone had to build the ceiling before michael angelo could go to shop. >> i used to have scars right here. >> but if you do go to college. the unemployment rate is only 4.5% in this country. there is something said for getting educated if you possibly can do it because you will work. i agree with you. there used to be the master and the apprentice and the -- you worked your way up. everybody out there knows if you have got to get a plumber that's 25 bucks an hour, right? >> and the faucet leaks you are not going to be calling the geek squad. >> you say there isn't enough training in the public school system for these jobs? >> there is none. like 2020 there is going to be 10 million unfilled jobs in the skill trade. >> bill: all blue collar jobs? >> right across the board. anybody that uses tools. >> bill: as the service industry goes to china and honduras the replacement for that should be skilled blue collar labor. people who can fix things, auto mechanics. >> the jobs are there now. >> computer guys learn how to fix your computer. >> the tinkering spirit is gone too. we don't